Put Over the Knee and Spanked in the Not Sexy Way….

Go check out these vintage ads from Bioephemera. As I commented on her blog, I think she’s trying to bait me. It’s totally working.

Dr. Isis’s sweet scibling BioE links to this vintage advertisement of a woman turned over her husband’s knee and spanked for bringing home the coffee without checking its “freshness.” It may be shocking to the modern liberated woman, but it is by no means unique. That period was littered with domestic violence in popular culture.

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Figure 1: Back then real men like Desi Arnaz, Elvis, and John Wayne all took their wives to task when they were out of line and got too mouthy.

But, part of what I love about Bioephemera posting that advertisement is that these kinds of posts seem to bring the real winners out to comment. Winner and total dreamboat Art writes on BioE’s blog:


First, you don’t give a proper spanking through a skirt. Skirts and petticoats, the petticoats are a nice touch, should be lifted. Also she seems to enjoying it too much. And what is that on her wrist? Looks like a substantial bit of bling… [It] first one does have a playful edge expressed through the look on the ladies face that carries the scene so it isn’t entirely without some virtue.

How fortunate that Art is here to enlighten us on proper wife beating technique. Still, I couldn’t help but think that maybe Art was right in thinking that the ad wasn’t quite right.

I thought I’d take my hand at correcting it for him. Behind the cut for those of you at work…

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Figure 2: Better

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36 responses to “Put Over the Knee and Spanked in the Not Sexy Way….

  1. Ya know, I got a really nice cup of coffee served to me beside my four-poster bed this morning..And why, you ask?? He saw that ad!!!!!
    All that and nice shoes,too.

  2. LOL. Not only will you spank him but you will AMPUTATE HIS LEGS??? Mr. Isis, if you’re reading this, I would do my best not to cross this one. She means business.

  3. She’s taking them a piece at a time, Lola. I’m already down one ACL from last year. Next, she’s threatening to take away my patellas. Needless to say, Dr. Isis always gets her coffee.

  4. When I hear people say that they love to watch “I Love Lucy” reruns I cringe. Most plots deal with Lucy wanting a job and Ricky emphatically stating that his wife isn’t going to work. Then, every few episodes he spanks her!
    My husband and son have a John Wayne video (McClintock, I think) they play, I believe, to piss me off. There is a scene where that big man, the Duke, puts Maureen O’Hara over his knee for a spanking. My son knows this pulls my chain. Of course, he is also aware that if his father ever tried this, his next cup of coffee would likely be fresh and laced with some really foul poison.

  5. She kinda looks like she’s inspecting a mole or a condition on his arse. Hot shoes, tho. Glad you’re back, & thanks for the photoshop laugh.

  6. Needless to say, Dr. Isis always gets her coffee.

    But Sweetie, I did stay home and do a little laundry after you left me my coffee on the nightstand. Surely that must demonstrate that I am at some level an obedient little house frau.
    By the way, when you get home you need to put it in the dryer and fold it and put it away.

  7. Thanks for the morning laugh, dearest Isis. Scary that those ads were acceptable not so long ago.

  8. i’m gonna be frank here, and i don’t care if it pisses people off. the description of wife-spanking and other vintage publicly-acceptable treatment of women as domestic violence irritates me. the practice was total bullshit, and i’m glad the general public does not accept such things now, don’t get me wrong.
    but if you want to know about serious domestic violence, go to a women’s shelter and ask them what they’re hiding from. it sure as hell isn’t a spanking, i can guarantee you that. more likely, at that point, they are fearful for their lives. and this kind of shit has a very long-standing tradition of being hidden from public view.
    i hesitate to include spanking in with that type of scarring experience.

  9. She looks like she’s trying to levitate him. Or cast a spell. Or inspect.
    “I’m sorry, honey, but your ass is not acceptable. Your going to have to do better, or I’ll have some hot coffee for you.”

  10. Hmmm. They’re still possibly better than the old Lysol ads, about how if your husband just isn’t showing the same interest anymore, is coming home late from the office… it’s probably your fault, for not douching with Lysol to maintain your “intimate daintiness” — doctors agree!
    Here’s one: http://www.mum.org/Lysol48.htm

  11. Simulacrum

    This is one of your stupider posts, Isis. Stick to science and/or anecdotes of life in second-rate academia. Depictions of men spanking women were used BECAUSE they were shocking and outrageous. They were obviously used for comedic effect (e.g. ‘I Love Lucy’) or to amplify what is obviously a trivial concern (Fresh coffee). Ask your grandmother or mother whether she really feared abuse for not bringing home fresh coffee. I suspect she’ll laugh at you.
    Leigh has it exactly right. Your post trivializes REAL domestic abuse. Visit a domestic abuse shelter sometime.
    Domestic abuse, by the way, also happens (albeit relatively rarely) to men. Which makes your fantasy about spanking Mr. Isis all the more abrasive.

  12. Wow, first time I’ve seen domestic violence snobbery.
    Dear commenters who are saying “MY domestic violence is violenter than YOUR domestic violence”
    Statistics say that 98.4% of all reasonable people agree that the act of beating and humiliating your partner (AKA ‘spanking’) is indeed, eligible for the Official Domestic Violence Certificate of Authenticity.
    Jeez.

  13. but if you want to know about serious domestic violence, go to a women’s shelter and ask them what they’re hiding from. it sure as hell isn’t a spanking, i can guarantee you that. more likely, at that point, they are fearful for their lives. and this kind of shit has a very long-standing tradition of being hidden from public view.
    i hesitate to include spanking in with that type of scarring experience.

    leigh, I love you but may I say “Straw-the fuck-man,” sister. Yes, there are women who are severely abused. There are women who are punched, kicked, stabbed, and women who fear for their lives. That doesn’t mean that the women in the above images aren’t being unwillingly struck by a partner in to order to exert his dominance over her.
    Perhaps these women aren’t fearing for their lives and don’t have scars as a result (maybe they have bruises), but they are still being struck. That, in my book, is violence.

  14. Simulacrum

    Wow. John Wayne movies would be OK were it not for the ‘violence’ of the occasionally spanked woman? That is some twisted relativistic shit, girlfriend.

  15. no love lost, Isis, but where are you seeing a straw man argument in my comment?
    you referred to such incidents as ‘domestic violence’ and i took exception, contending that domestic violence is a far worse thing than a spanking, and that it typically occurs behind closed doors, away from view of the public.
    i never said that public humiliation is ok. and i had no comment about the implications of the acceptable state of public spanking of women, and what may be going on behind closed doors that may be worse.
    but citing a spanking as domestic violence seems to me an exaggeration at best.
    that’s all the further i’m going to get into it. after all, i have recently been informed i am part of an irrational minority so my opinion should be dismissed. (you want to get into straw man…)


  16. at some level an obedient little house frau.
    Uhmmm …hausfrau.
    Your dear husband must be so . . .’patient’ in understanding your many . . .’talents’.
    . . . …:minism:…
    …tom…

  17. Correcting me again, …tom…?
    I prefer you obedient.

  18. With all due respect to your awesomeness your demonstrating a profound lack of understanding of spanking protocols.
    Nothing inherently wrong with the woman spanking the man, takes all sorts to make a world, but the woman in the picture is clearly a neophyte. You don’t place the spankee’s head on the same side as the hand you use. The bottom should be on the same side as the hand you intend to use. I would think that anyone with a reasonable diversity of experience would know about such things.
    Also neither person seems to be engaged. In which case what is the point? My objection to the woman in the original picture enjoying herself wasn’t a comment on the enjoyment as such. But rather the open expression of enjoyment. The pleasure should be veiled, indirect, and nuanced.
    By any means the picture you present looks too much like the lady is performing an inspection. She might be checking for hemorrhoids. He looks much too stiff. Like he is getting a prostate exam. Some people go that way and I have no objection but it would seem outside the subject in question. The couple is clearly not effectively playing off the pain-pleasure-power-trust curve. Also not your best effort at Photoshop.
    I personally don’t get into such sex play much but the psychology and dynamics of the behavior shouldn’t be too difficult and alien to understand. Clearly your just showing a lack of perspective because of a lack of experimentation and experience. or a willingness to admit to such experience. Nothing a sound spanking or two between consenting adults wouldn’t clear up for you. Experimentation is a good way to explore boundaries. Of course the choice of role and partners are up to you.
    Who knows? Perhaps bending a graduate student, or Mr Isis, dressed in a fetching lab coat, over your knee will do it for you and open up vast new horizons of pleasure and play to you.

  19. With all due respect, I think the whole “this kind of domestic abuse is worse then that kind” argument is completely inappropriate.
    Many victims of domestic abuse suffer from mental forms of abuse (both women and men). Sometimes these individuals are verbally abused by their partners to the point of having no self-esteem or volition whatsoever, and there is not a bruise on them. Have they suffered from “real” abuse? Is their abuse not “serious”?
    Implying that one form of abuse is worse than another just reinforces the shame felt by abuse victims. Both men and women may feel like they aren’t suffering “enough” to seek help. Men may feel that because they are larger and stronger than their partner, they aren’t “really” being abused. And worst of all, rape victims may feel that unless they fight back to the point of serious injury, they didn’t resist their rapist “enough.”
    For some couples, spanking may be playful and in fun – more power to them. But for others, it’s abuse. Saying that women who are routinely *hit against their will* by their husbands don’t have a “serious” problem, and their experience is “trivial” because they’re not really hurt, is problematic generalization – especially since as we all know, abuse often escalates over time.

  20. i was objecting to the use of the term domestic violence in reference to spankings that occurred on freaking television, people. i said that did not sit right with me. maybe i should have known i would be painted as:
    (a) irrational
    (b) making use of a logical fallacy
    and now
    (c) insensitive to those who have been abused.
    well, now i know. consider me taught.
    i cited my points of difference: out in the open vs behind closed doors where things can be far worse, and the factor of harm to one’s person.
    physical violence occurring outside the view of the public is by nature able to get far worse than that occurring in the view of others, and where others can stop it. also, greater intimidation can occur behind closed doors. saying things like “i will fucking kill you if you call the cops” doesn’t work so great when others are watching and can take action. isolation from outside support and the process of creating the one-on-one environment of victimization is the powerful act. meanwhile, this also puts the aggressor in position to do greater physical damage to the victim, without impedance by local law enforcement/whoever else might be available to help.
    yes, i am familiar with the subject matter. and again, just in case this comes back to bite me (since i already bowed out of this and am now jumping back in, which is probably a bad idea in the first place) i said and implied nothing about any of the other million ways to abuse someone. i was objecting to the context of the term violence.
    but this is Isis’ blog and she can say whatever the fuck she wants here. that is all.

  21. “i cited my points of difference: out in the open vs behind closed doors where things can be far worse, and the factor of harm to one’s person.”
    leigh, the problem is that I, and I think others here, don’t really understand how public vs. private plays out in your argument. Yes, the examples from Isis are all fictitious portrayals in media. We’re not trying to save Lucy from her abusive husband Ricky. In the original ad, a woman was being spanked by her husband, presumably in the home, for not doing a good enough job shopping. Is it playful? That’s in the eye of the beholder. Does she look abused or scared? Not really.
    But the fact that spanking was in ads, TV shows and played for laughs, doesn’t mean that it didn’t really happen behind closed doors, with more sinister implications. In fact, I think what Isis is saying is the fact that it occurs so commonly in ads is indicative that it was very common behind closed doors, where it implies a really off base power dynamic between men and women.
    I don’t think anyone is trying to attack you – I just honestly can’t wrap my head around your argument. Can you explain?

  22. Thanks for coming by, BioE. I think you are getting to the heart of my problem with the ads.
    What that ad says to me is, “if your wife does not perform to your expectations, it is socially acceptable to discipline her like a child.” It sends a message to the women reading the ad that this is an acceptable response from their husbands.
    Let’s take it a step further…”if your wife does not perform to your expections, it is socially acceptable to strike her.”
    The ads may seem en face to be tame and dare I say “playful”, en face, but to what degree is it acceptable to strike your wife before we’re allowed to call it violence? Is it ok if it doesn’t leave a mark or if you don’t threaten to kill her? Is it acceptable as long as it’s done in the open?
    This extends beyond the consensual kinky sex play some of the commenters allude to here. The ad comes with a threat. “…if he discovers you’re still taking chances on getting flat, stale coffee…woe be unto you!” Maybe stale coffee warrants an over the knee spanking. What does a more serious offense warrant?

  23. I find it interesting that a lot of people are assuming that the women depicted are being dominated, weak and victims. As opposed to powerful and independent personalities who are willingly participating in exploration and/or expressions of their desires, personalities and relationships.
    Funny how some reflexively see weakness and victims. Almost makes me think your used to seeing women as weak and victims.
    The fact is that the scenes depicted are staged performances using professional actors or drawings. In the first case the women are well paid individuals who agree to play a part in a theatrical performance. In the later they are entirely imaginary.
    Yes, there are real people who suffer profound mental, physical and psychological abuse but none of the pictures show that sort of situation. Unfortunately the real violence is almost always done behind closed doors and in such a way that the damage is almost invisible.

  24. i guess i’m not so good at the communication when i get too far into something that i can’t explain without laying some heavy shit out on the table to explain my perspective. and i really, simply, do not have the mental/emotional fortitude to handle that right now.
    at any rate, i will do my best to explain my argument on the concept of openness vs behind closed doors, if that’s where i am failing. because i’m getting totally pwned by this part of my discussion section right now anyway.
    something socially acceptable enough to portray on the television or a magazine ad as part of an otherwise fairly lighthearted comedy (or farce of an ad) is not generally rigorously hidden from view. i doubt the sitcom wife-spankers were really afraid that their behavior would be found out by their friends, colleagues, boss.
    again. not saying socially acceptable = ethically ok. just that there is not that element of shame, needing to hide the behavior.
    compare to a situation where very physical things are going on, that would result in public revulsion. perpetrator does not want the boss, the friends, the family to find out. the boss would fire him, the friends would desert him, the family would be horrified. he would lose control of the situation. here is where the isolation of the victim begins: this is part of the process. cutting the victim off from support is control, is manipulation, sets off dysfunctional behavioral patterns in the victim to cope with the situation, which sadly often leads to the victim staying around for more violence.
    to keep this short and sweet, on several brief occasions as a child i lived in domestic shelters with other families seeking escape. i’ve been through the courts more times than i can count, i’ve been through the useless teen counseling sessions, the shelter groups, and as such i’ve associated with a whole lot of people who have lived through similar things to my own experience. there is a common thread, and that is shame. shame amplifies the problem, shame gives the perpetrator the motive to hide, to close the doors to the world and isolate.
    i fully admit my perspective is skewed, as i have seen things that i would never wish upon another human being. this may have desensitized me compared to others posting here, but it also confers a certain familiarity with patterns that are fairly common.

  25. I think what the adverts are actually saying is “Buy our products because we bring you sexually charged images of spanking in an era when these are not otherwise widely available”. Ok, I admit there is a pretty unpleasant subtext to some of these but I can’t help thinking there must have been a lot of couples who came across these adverts, had a sudden “are you thinking what I’m thinking” moment, and suddenly discovered that their intimate lives were _a lot_ more interesting than they had been.

  26. My boss used to give me the same treatment —– until we switched to decaf in the office coffee club.

  27. As a young man, I worked for a stern lady who was old enough to be my mother. Your “coffee” picture brought back memories, as I often found found myself in a similar position for my office misbehavior. Like the lady in the picture, she was lefthanded too. Perhaps both ladies needed decaf.

  28. From what I read, most of you have a no tolerance policy for anything remotely close to domestic violence and in this case, ads dipicting it. I agree. However, I think there is another side most of you are not seeing or maybe getting. The kinky one. Adult Spanking has been around forever and is included in more people’s sex lives than you would care to know about. As we all know, sex sells. The adult spanking ads regardless of when they were published ARE sexy to the people who enjoy and love spanking. To those who don’t, it’s easy, not to mention obvious, why they are seen as violent. It’s all a matter of perspective. Spanking is sexy, silly or abusive depending on the individual. The reason you don’t see many of them today, is because of people like the ones posting here! The polictical incorrectness.
    In the pics above, slapping a woman in the face is not spanking! That’s really the only violent photo I see. The others? Just plain silly. Any particular reason the slapping, not spanking photo was right in the middle? Hmmmmmm….wouldn’t have the same effect would it? I see pictures of women over the knee and getting spanked, which is the title of your Blog, but where is the Over the knee spanking in that picture you decided would be best suited in the center?
    That’s like posting a photo of Kathy Bates on ‘Misery’ as the avatar of the person who requested the amputation of another person’s legs in this thread. Going a little overboard don’t you think? Also a little ironic in a discussion about violence. But hey, I’m sure it’s a joke right? Cutting off someone’s legs has never really been something I found humorous. Could it be my perspective? Of course I realize it is the posters sense of humor and obviously not serious, but there are people out there in this world who won’t see that. Just like there are people who can’t fathom there are adults out there with a kink for spanking and relate anything to do with it, pictures and all, to ‘domestic violence’. I showed a dozen people in my office the photos above and the response was either silly or sexy, not violent. We all agreed the slapping photo was only put there to help the blogger get the bandwagon rolling and prove her point.
    Your energy would be better suited for children who are being spanked, especially in public schools. Very wrong and still happening today. Leave the adults alone. Ads do not need to appeal to every single person and aren’t meant to. What YOU find sexy may not appeal to another and vice versa.

  29. However, I think there is another side most of you are not seeing or maybe getting.
    Gemma, Thank you for saving this conversation from Utter Wrongness

  30. Sexstreme Spanko

    I am sure that there are some women who like to be spanked as part of routine sex play. Perhaps our lovely host, the domestic and laboratory goddess, also enjoys a good over the knee paddling until she cries on occasion?
    Still, can’t we all agree that the public display of spanking as a punative measure to discipline a woman in the mainstream is probably not on par with S&M kink?

  31. When I (5’10″ 165 lbs.) first met my wife (6’2″ 190 lbs.) I used to playfully turn her over my knee before making love. She never really seamed to enjoy it as much as I did though. Then one day on our honeymoon she was feeling a little frisky (maybe the margaritas had something to do with it) and said she wanted to try something new (a little twist to our lovemaking). Then before I knew it She turned me over her knee and I received my first spanking from her. To my chagrin and her delight I wasn’t able to push myself off of her knee (she was too strong for me). Shortly after my spanking began Amanda said well well well what do we have here? She turned me over and said what a big little boy may my new husband is, it seems you enjoyed our new role reversal. No I didn’t stop teasing me. Oh you didn’t? Then she grabbed me and started stroking me. Are you sure? Stop that. You’re not lying to me are you? You know lying is very naughty. If you were one of our future little boys and I caught you lying to me I would wash your mouth out with soap first then turn you over my knee for a nice bare bottomed spanking (just like the one I just gave you). And with that she went into the bathroom and came back with a little hotel bare of soap and some hand cream. What are those for? You. One before and one is for during. Before and during what? I have a hunch and want to try something. You still didn’t answer my question. Silly, your spanking. No. Yes. I said no and I’m putting my foot down. Really. Well, I said yes and your feet won’t be down they will be kicking in the air. And with that a handful of cold hand cream stroked my privates then she popped in the soap and over her knee I went for a second spanking over my beautiful wife’s knee I went. As she spanked I bounced then realized her method as she sneezed her thighs together in effect she was giving me a spanking and handjob at the same time. It didn’t take long for me to loose control then lay limp over her knee. Just as I thought she said, the wrong person has been wearing the pants in our relationship. That has all changed now. This has been a great honeymoon honey, thank you very much. I love you so much and will take care of you till death do us part.

  32. When I (5’10″ 165 lbs.) first met my wife (6’2″ 190 lbs.) I used to playfully turn her over my knee before making love. She never really seamed to enjoy it as much as I did though. Then one day on our honeymoon she was feeling a little frisky (maybe the margaritas had something to do with it) and said she wanted to try something new (a little twist to our lovemaking). Then before I knew it She turned me over her knee and I received my first spanking from her. To my chagrin and her delight I wasn’t able to push myself off of her knee (she was too strong for me). Shortly after my spanking began Amanda said well well well what do we have here? She turned me over and said what a big little boy may my new husband is, it seems you enjoyed our new role reversal. No I didn’t stop teasing me. Oh you didn’t? Then she grabbed me and started stroking me. Are you sure? Stop that. You’re not lying to me are you? You know lying is very naughty. If you were one of our future little boys and I caught you lying to me I would wash your mouth out with soap first then turn you over my knee for a nice bare bottomed spanking (just like the one I just gave you). And with that she went into the bathroom and came back with a little hotel bare of soap and some hand cream. What are those for? You. One before and one is for during. Before and during what? I have a hunch and want to try something. You still didn’t answer my question. Silly, your spanking. No. Yes. I said no and I’m putting my foot down. Really. Well, I said yes and your feet won’t be down they will be kicking in the air. And with that a handful of cold hand cream stroked my privates then she popped in the soap and over her knee I went for a second spanking over my beautiful wife’s knee I went. As she spanked I bounced then realized her method as she sneezed her thighs together in effect she was giving me a spanking and handjob at the same time. It didn’t take long for me to loose control then lay limp over her knee. Just as I thought she said, the wrong person has been wearing the pants in our relationship. That has all changed now. This has been a great honeymoon honey, thank you very much. I love you so much and will take care of you till death do us part.

  33. For very grievous offenses, L employs a detention punishment for one solid week.
    Several times a day, It can consist of writing lines, as many as 1000, kneeling on uncooked round beans for an hour or kneeling with my arms extended to my side for 15 minute intervals ,for as much as two hours. Detention is very painful but it is invariably accompanied by the dictum of no sex for the whole week, which is the worst of punishments. She doesn’t even allow me to service her with my tongue. Even worse when I’m kneeling in pain , she parades around the house in filmy negligee, as further punishment because it invariably arouses me.
    Seeing me struggle in pain , fully inflated , she gets really very moist. So she often places her hand by her precious treasure and carries her essence to my nose and lips. Her marvelous aroma makes me crazy with lust. And she knows it and LOL. Yesterday, after a horrendous otk session with the bath brush I was writing line and she spread her scent to my nose and lips three different times driving me crazy.My bottom was throbbing and scorched but my wily saluted. She started cackling , like a witch.
    Lucky Me Robert

  34. Spanking?!
    Wer möchte sich mit mir austauschen?
    Aktiv oder passiv!

  35. Wait, hold on: Elvis spanking a soaking wet supermodel isn’t sexy?! Stop the presses. What planet do you live on? Really. Here on Earth, that’s kind of hot to most people, and sexiness incarnate to 10-20% of people, who you cannot possibly have avoided meeting in your life. Ok, yeah it’s kind of odd. And yes, yes: it isn’t YOUR cup of tea. From the little photoshop job perhaps you like it the other way, but this is really just nonsense, if I have ever seen one! I mean come on, really: if you understood this at all you would get that humiliation is part of the appeal of spanking to some people, then you would understand that these ads feed on that, by portraying a public event, and being public. These cherry picked ads do not indicate that society approves of these practices. There was a Gucci spanking ad just a few years ago! One citation doesn’t prove a social theory, and in addition, these images have a complicated function which has many good aspects. For starters: people enjoy these images! That is why they have been saved, disseminated, and exist for your criticism. In an odd way, a depiction of S&M-ish” practices as normal is liberating to people for whom that is an interest. I know old movies served this function for me! You don’t know what it’s like to have the only paradigm for your sexual preference be Tarantino-like exaggerations. The idea that a man or woman could be spanked for a “transgression” as simple as bad-coffee-buying, when we live in a world where people go their lives bearing these unsatisfied sadomasochistic desires, is a fantasy to many people. Yes, it is a nightmare to feminists, also. But feminists do not need to proceed like Crusaders, destroying the images of every ideology or variance which does not fit their credo. The Elvis spanking does not compute – ok, don’t go getting in a huff and saying the imagery is an ABOMINATION – next thing you’ll be calling to ban it.

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